|Duration||Agenda Item||Requested by||Notes / Links|
|10 m||Casablanca Event Logistics|
|10 m||Release Status|
|30 m||TSC Composition|
4th week carried forward
|20 m||Versioning & API Documentation Guidelines for Casablanca||Gregory Glover, |
|4th week carried forward|
Logging scope change for POMBA
carried forward to next week
The POMBA (post orchestration model based audit) has had 2 meetings with the Architecture subcommittee on
The last meeting gave the OK to start working in the logging-analytics repo from Chris and Stephen.
Full IRC Log
13:55:13 <kennypaul> #startmeeting tsc-2018-06-14 13:55:13 <collabot_> Meeting started Thu Jun 14 13:55:13 2018 UTC. The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:55:13 <collabot_> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:55:13 <collabot_> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc_2018_06_14' 13:55:35 <kennypaul> #chair phrobb, SteveT, gildaslanilis 13:55:35 <collabot_> Warning: Nick not in channel: gildaslanilis 13:55:35 <collabot_> Current chairs: SteveT gildaslanilis kennypaul phrobb 13:55:42 <kennypaul> #topic rollcall 13:58:35 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei 14:01:03 <Srini> #info proxy Srini Addepalli, Intel 14:01:21 <xinhuili> #info Xinhui Li, VMware 14:01:27 <Xiaojun> #info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom 14:01:27 <Susana_> #info Susana Sabater, Vodafone 14:01:28 <kennypaul> #info Alla Goldner, AMDOCS 14:01:37 <SteveT> #info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson 14:02:03 <JasonHunt> #info Jason Hunt, IBM 14:02:09 <ningso> #info Ning So, Reliance Jio 14:02:10 <EricDebeau> #info Eric Debeau, Orange 14:02:43 <TimoPerala> #info Timo Perälä, Nokia, proxy to Ranny Haiby 14:02:50 <kennypaul> #Catherine Lefevre proxy AT&T 14:03:20 <Lingli> #info Lingli, CMCC 14:03:43 <gilbert> #info mazin (AT&T) 14:04:50 <kennypaul> #info Murat Tupcu, Turk Telekom 14:05:44 <SteveT> #topic Housekeeping 14:05:55 <SteveT> #info Community award notifications close today 14:06:18 <SteveT> #ONS europe CFP deealine June 24 14:06:45 <SteveT> #info ONS europe CFP deealine June 24 14:08:48 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 14:13:05 <davidsauvageau_> #info David Sauvageau, Bell 14:13:36 <SteveT> #topic IP-legal subcommitte recomendation 14:14:37 <SteveT> #info There was no objections to the approval of the IP legal subcommitte recomendation 14:17:17 <SteveT> #info Marketing collateral links to ONAP docs points to docs.onap.org/en/latest should be docs.onap.org. thoughts were requested for feedback 14:21:07 <EricDebeau> #We should link to the Beijing documentation doc 14:22:01 <SteveT> #info Recomended to address this in the marketing collateral. It was also suggested that on the "latest" page a note to indicate that if you are looking for the beijing documentation. 14:23:25 <EricDebeau> #info Beijing also appears in the url: https://docs.onap.org/en/beijing/ when using http://docs.onap.org 14:24:51 <SteveT> #topic Casablanca Event Logistics 14:25:13 <SteveT> #info suggested to download the material to have a local copy 14:33:59 <kennypaul> #topic Release Status 14:34:25 <kennypaul> #info @gildaslanilis shared his slides 14:36:46 <kennypaul> #info MSB, Holmes being in-or-out to be determined @M1- assumed to be in. 14:39:42 <kennypaul> #info multivim will need a scope change 14:41:03 <kennypaul> #undo 14:41:03 <collabot_> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2a861d0> 14:41:45 <kennypaul> #info discussion of multivim scope remaining intact or does it change? 14:43:24 <kennypaul> #info @xinhuili reports scope unchanged from last year. 14:45:36 <kennypaul> #info more discussion needed next week 14:48:16 <kennypaul> #info Open Test Framework and Continuous Delivery still to be presented @ Arch Sub. 14:55:19 <kennypaul> #info Functional Requirements and Usecase owners need to work with the PTLs on worrk 14:57:47 <kennypaul> #info suggestion from Catherine on overall release requirements being concatenated (S3P, Usecase, Functional, etc) 14:59:38 <kennypaul> #action gildaslanilis will create a wiki page for consolidation - 15:04:40 <kennypaul> #info @Lingli recommends the usecase owner to negotiate resources. 15:07:11 <kennypaul> #info @gilbert asks if leads have been identifies for all new use cases and if presented to Arc 15:07:51 <kennypaul> #info not all have been presented to Arch yet 15:08:19 <kennypaul> #info not all new use cases have been presented to Arch yet 15:13:00 <kennypaul> #info Chaker says we don't have a clear understranding of impact to all components - Arch review is for fit, not resourcing and impact 15:13:51 <kennypaul> #info @cdonley says that the usecase owner is to push that through with the PTLs. 15:18:00 <kennypaul> #info discussion around the PTS's finding things on approved usecase/features too late. 15:19:05 <kennypaul> #info @JasonHunt looking for addl S3P feedback 15:22:26 <kennypaul> #topic TSC Composition 15:23:16 <kennypaul> #info Survyt info has been posted to the TSC meeting minute\s for the past 4 weeks. 15:23:43 <kennypaul> #info Keeny and Phil to send proposals based upon the survey 15:24:24 <kennypaul> #info will also be reviewed next week. 15:24:52 <kennypaul> #topic Casablanca versions and doc 15:25:14 <kennypaul> #info Greg Glover reviewed his slides 15:25:45 <kennypaul> #info new template recommended as is the use of swagger. 15:27:26 <kennypaul> #info reccomend having the backward compatibility for API versions of Major release minus 1 year, 15:29:46 <kennypaul> #info suggestion that this is adopted as a Policy. 15:31:50 <kennypaul> #info Seshu suggests tying any policy to CII badging. 15:32:27 <kennypaul> #info Amy Z posts CII into to zoom chat 15:34:43 <kennypaul> #info SteveT feels that more clarity on the implementation and priority of the proposal is needed 15:35:31 <kennypaul> #info concerns raised on existing versus new interfaces 15:37:09 <kennypaul> #info @JasonHun mentions that some of this is can be captures in usability requirements. 15:39:18 <kennypaul> #info follow-up discussion is needed for existing work 16:06:27 <kennypaul> #endmeeting
Zoom chat log
07:00:37 From Alla Goldner : Kenny, please register me on IRC
07:01:43 From Catherine Lefevre : i am proxy for Mazin until he will join the call
07:02:04 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : logged Alla
07:03:01 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : Catherine Logged
07:04:00 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : hi kenny
07:05:02 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : Murat logged
07:21:20 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : tagged log page kenny - labelled via lower right corner - (padlock was on top left) - as kp-keep
07:21:20 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=10784046
07:28:17 From Arash Hekmat (Amdocs) : Will the Beijing sessions be recorded?
07:38:18 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : CD - will need another talk with the Integration team first - may be absorbed and proposal removed
07:41:13 From Steven Wright : is the proposed container based development project scoped to the ONAP platfrom components or does this impact VNFs?
07:43:03 From Eric Debeau : CD is an important topic, I think it should be separated from Integration project where there are a lot of activities
07:44:17 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : CD - Agree - separate - I will schedule an onap meeting to go over all efforts, integration/logging/oom/opnfv - we could all participate
07:44:18 From Brian : Being able to onboard and instantiate container based VNFs is bigger than MultiVIM
07:44:48 From Eric Debeau : I fully agree with Brian
07:47:03 From xinhui? iPhone : ok
07:50:28 From Steven Wright : +1 @Brian, @Eric
07:51:02 From Srini Addepalli (Intel) : Gildas, On Support for K8S based Cloud regions is presented to architecture subcommittee and it is endorsed. I don't remember the date. As discussed today, we will present in TSC for final approval.
07:52:38 From Mazin : CD may be separated from Integration; nevertheless, it would be good for the two to discuss before presentation to the TSC.
07:53:34 From Brian : Use case owners need to work PTL committment for casablanca its not automatic
07:53:57 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : For CD Ran Pollack is also the CD rep in Integration in addtion to Helen
07:54:11 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/LOG-300
07:54:45 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/INT-300
07:55:49 From Vimal Begwani -- ATT : @Brian -- agree & use case owners are working with PTLs
07:56:05 From xinhui li : container is in the scope of multicloud from the very beginning, Multicloud does not need rescope and will automatic include this proposal
07:58:02 From Brian : Xinhui - if no artifacts in SDC provide container aprameters there won't be any containers to implement - that is my point - its not just being able to call the K8 api's via multivim
07:58:41 From xinhui li : Brain - reasonable
07:59:09 From DENG Hui : we still need modeling to handle this artifact
07:59:40 From xinhui li : right, Multi VIM/Cloud need to handle the infrastructure modeling
08:01:20 From Brian : Ling Li - could you say it again ?
08:01:27 From Catherine Lefevre : please put some target dates considering PTLS will need at least 1 week to assess what they can commit based on people contributing to their projects
08:02:42 From Catherine Lefevre : thank you
08:09:35 From Steven Wright : Is there a documented deliverable on teh wiki that captures the impacts from the use case across each of the projects?
08:11:18 From Lingli : there is a section called project impact and project commitment on the CCVPN usecase
08:18:08 From Arash Hekmat (Amdocs) : I agree with Chaker. Some use cases are just too big for PTLs to realize the impact on them. As an example, DCAE project is being loaded with requirements for Casablanca
08:24:19 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : i need to leave i will try to connect over zoom next week please send the updated meeting, best regards
08:27:39 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Q: I know we discussed this - Time and timezone of next TSC meet? would like to prep from North America - thank you
08:29:03 From Brian : how will we move to this while adding functions - we need a plan for each server side to implemnt and hten a plan for the client side to shift to using that api
08:30:07 From Stephen Terrill : The architecture sub-comittee review quested the x-component
08:31:12 From Amy Zwarico : The project MUST provide reference documentation that describes the external interface (both input and output) of the software produced by the project. (N/A allowed.) (Justification required for "N/A".) [documentation_interface]
08:31:35 From Amy Zwarico : The project MUST provide basic documentation for the software produced by the project. (N/A allowed.) (Justification required for "N/A".) [documentation_basics]
08:33:32 From Amy Zwarico : The project MUST make an effort to keep the documentation consistent with the current version of the project results (including software produced by the project). Any known documentation defects making it inconsistent MUST be fixed. If the documentation is generally current, but erroneously includes some older information that is no longer true, just treat that as a defect, then track and fix as usual. [documentation_current]
08:33:41 From Steven Wright : are the different versions all to be tested by CSIT as part of integration test of the E-E use cases?
08:35:12 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : got to go to the acumos meet
08:35:25 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : next meeting time?