Paweł Pawlak: Hello! How are you?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hi! How are you?
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah. Good. Good.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Good, good,
Paweł Pawlak: So let's wait for other folks to join us.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah,
Paweł Pawlak: As I could not join yesterday. Pts. Call. Do you mind to share with the team some
Paweł Pawlak: some summary of the meeting? If there are any actions.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Sure. But that much, you know. We discussed the what you put that
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we can. We can do that if you want to.
Paweł Pawlak: Hmm. Finally I checked, and Amy also confirmed that the access to the Clm. Reports for the nexus IQ is working.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, okay. Okay.
Paweł Pawlak: So this is fixed
Paweł Pawlak: because we can see the the results of the scans.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: So these are the good news.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, so
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): so a older Prm, job, crm, crm, crm, jobs, right? That means.
Paweł Pawlak: Yes, he hasn't.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Including.
Paweł Pawlak: We, the we, we.
Paweł Pawlak: the issue we had last week was that we had no access to all the jobs we're we're failing right? So now they are.
Paweł Pawlak: We don't have a situation that all the jobs are failing.
Paweł Pawlak: But we we started to experience the issue with, no access to the reports. Okay, the you when you click on the See lab job.
Paweł Pawlak: Usually you should see the report that is generated with the nexus IQ,
Paweł Pawlak: and we could not access it.
Paweł Pawlak: But now, as I said, it's fixed.
Paweł Pawlak: Hmm. However, still, some drinking jobs are, let's say, unstable majority is unstable.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay. Sure. Hmm.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): good. Good. Then.
Paweł Pawlak: I don't know if it's that much problematic, this
Paweł Pawlak: lack of stability.
Paweł Pawlak: I would expect that it should be at least once scanned. And and you know we we have the
Paweł Pawlak: periodic sched review with the with the Amy and her team. Right? So.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Uhhuh.
Paweł Pawlak: It's yep
Paweł Pawlak: crucial to to have you know the
Paweł Pawlak: the process in place, and also the the
Paweł Pawlak: the tools that are, you know, working fine, so we can use them.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah. Good. Good.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so let's wait. One more minute.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Can't.
Paweł Pawlak: Me hope
Paweł Pawlak: you could start. Let me share my screen.
Paweł Pawlak: I hope, guys, you can see.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, I can see.
Paweł Pawlak: Lucky.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hi, Maggie.
Paweł Pawlak: Hi, Maggie! How are you?
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Oh, doing. Well. Doing. Well.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Okay.
Paweł Pawlak: To hear.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Yeah, yeah,
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: getting some nice weather. Here. So.
Paweł Pawlak: Right.
Paweł Pawlak: It's good here.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): You, yeah.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: This morning in in the south of Poland we have a city where
Paweł Pawlak: it was
Paweł Pawlak: raining heavily, and.
Paweł Pawlak: I heard in the in the radius news that they had the, you know.
Paweł Pawlak: as much rain in one.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Oh!
Paweł Pawlak: No, you know few hours like for the whole month, so you can believe you can.
Paweł Pawlak: You can imagine no.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: There is a lot of water there.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Yeah.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: yeah, that's hard. If you get a lot at one time.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: alright. So I propose, we slowly start. So recording is running so welcome on our on app security subcommittee meeting.
Paweł Pawlak: So small update on the packages, upgrades. And as I mentioned before.
Paweł Pawlak: we have the situation that that nexus IQ and Clm drinking jobs are, let's say, working. But some of them are unstable.
Paweł Pawlak: so we will try to investigate. Why, what is the root cause? And so we had some new Jira issue opened.
Paweł Pawlak: Because we could not access the next IQ reports.
Paweł Pawlak: But apparently this is fixed. I checked this morning, and it is working, and I have an access. So
Paweł Pawlak: we have some progress moving forward.
Paweł Pawlak: In this area. Yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: for the logging modifications proposal. I don't know if there is. It was mentioned, there might be some update. No update.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Didn't update. So anyway. So.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, so.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Will be more a target for Oslo.
Paweł Pawlak: oh, oh, maybe I will put some update expected in Oslo right?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, yeah, yeah, that's better.
Paweł Pawlak: To be easier. So
Paweł Pawlak: Page is loading a little bit
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Paweł Pawlak: Sorry for that. I hope it's not my Internet.
Paweł Pawlak: Hmm.
Paweł Pawlak: I will try to.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay. Yes.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No problem, some problem. When I tried edit, some problem like this. Maybe.
Paweł Pawlak: Can you, if you could, please, share some small updates from the yesterday Pts call, if if you don't mind. In the meantime.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So yesterday we talk about Crm, so you say it's fixed this good thing and also with the Pta, I share the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the new dummy release.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): you want me to share screen, or you're just talking. But.
Paweł Pawlak: if you could, because I can share. But nothing is really really.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, something wrong with the the the this Wiki page because I tried edit anything. Edit. It doesn't.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I don't know.
Paweł Pawlak: It works like.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Shit, what.
Paweł Pawlak: Quarter ago. But now there is some some issue. Sorry guys, for that.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Yeah. Can you see my screen?
Paweł Pawlak: Yes, we can,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So briefly. Pto, we talk about the Crm. The pub just mentioned.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and New Delhi we discuss about the release planning. New Delhi is officially confirmed by Tsc. Rc. Is 23, rd and then sign up schedule for 13.th But we'll see.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And the Pto. We ask Pto to
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): put this.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Let me show you here once. Yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So this is so. Release candidate. Digital ticket cps is done and document is in progress, and the policy is done.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then Portal, ng, Peter, he put, that is is done.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Sso is in progress. And uui! That's the major, the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): update. So I think almost OFT.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Project
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they put this information except the stnc. Stnc, no inputs, I don't know about the vehement Api status. But if you don't hear anything I'm not gonna say anything about this. And then probably we have to remove sdnc update about the beer man and Rfc. HO. 4 0. That's the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the State. And if you look at the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): license that this is the what pie chart for the current one. Not many project but probably expect one more here Sdnc. But we'll see how it goes.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and also the I'm gonna talk about this later. But we talk about this
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): milestone.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): We put the mock Project state, active and inactive.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Anything inactive I think most likely is deprecated. They are deprecated.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So that's why we don't
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): have to create the new Delhi branch. So there was question from Thomas, quick documentation Pto, and we're not gonna create the new Daily Branch for inactive. Because no Pto, you know, project is deprecated.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So that's why we we decide that way. So I'm gonna talk about that. Then.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yep, there's the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah. You need some information from branch documentation. They want to provide to some information about the project. But we are waiting for some info yamo update from the Ptl. And then Thomas can
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): publish in the reader, Doc, so read the doc so.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and I put the deprecate the project, remove it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and we just using the regular. You. You know this one, Pablo.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): is the python needs to be done. Every project site. Okay, I think the new used to provide this update. Right? So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we discussed about that. And then
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): dmit, Emma, official.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And I think we provide so young. I think we provided that that python.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): the python dependency, what we wanted it to be, I think we provided it for this release.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, you did. Okay.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): We may not have created. We may may not have created
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): jeer tickets for, but we we did create the
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): that wiki where we put the versions where that should be used.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, then, this is this this. So this is done. Then, okay, for this release. Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): 5.th
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then we announced officially, Dmr deprecated, and
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I think this is old Doc. Old
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): boarding. So it's already done so, and only remaining is the beer means Api is this section. But this is done.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So we have to mark their way.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah, that's it. The Crm job, I think Pablo just confirmed is is working. So okay, that's the Pto meeting we talk about
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yesterday. Okay, I'm gonna stop sharing.
Paweł Pawlak: Any questions.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): No questions, but we can mark what is already done.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, we can do that.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Something.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Yeah, so.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So did you say that the clmn is fixed? Wait a minute. I'm trying to.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I'll go.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah. I checked. I checked. I mean that I have an access now to the reports
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Right? And I have. Yeah, I also have the access. I checked. So that was exciting. The question also, though, was that the status if you look at Clm.
Paweł Pawlak: Ability to.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): A lot of the jobs are still looking not very happy.
Paweł Pawlak: Near.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So I'm not sure what that like. I don't see any. I see
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): just a handful that have a green check mark, meaning that they
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): just
Paweł Pawlak: Shooting, shoot.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Status of the last build is being good.
Paweł Pawlak: But we have reports right, which is, which is the.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): We do have. We have? Well, we have our nexus IQ reports, but I'm just saying the status of the builds is.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): there's a lot of. There's
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): a lot of unstable builds.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, at least based on the
Paweł Pawlak: Jenkins. Right? So.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, based on the Jenkins that almost all of the builds are unstable.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: So maybe maybe it's a question that we could
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): We say, do.
Paweł Pawlak: To andress right.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay, I'll send an email to Andreas right now.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, because, you know, if it mean, does it mean that? Okay, we have also the internal tests that are that I run right for the
Paweł Pawlak: stability of the of the of the software before releasing right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So.
Paweł Pawlak: I think that's
Paweł Pawlak: one thing is okay, Jenkins, jobs that are
Paweł Pawlak: marking
Paweł Pawlak: in majority as unstable. Right? There is some
Paweł Pawlak: potential issue. But the question is how it looks
Paweł Pawlak: from the
Paweł Pawlak: you know, our internal testing
Paweł Pawlak: point of view right? If if we observe an instability.
Paweł Pawlak: we need to keep in mind that lfit is moving towards Github actions. Right?
Paweł Pawlak: So maybe they don't care that much on, you know.
Paweł Pawlak: Configuration
Paweł Pawlak: of the Jenkins, and you know, making it
Paweł Pawlak: Smoothly appearing, let's say, in the in the dashboard.
Paweł Pawlak: So this is something we we should definitely check right.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yes, and and I guess that I was wondering, does it impact? Is it impacting the is, does it impact your ability to
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): produce a release
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): with the build.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And beauty we can.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): It is.
Paweł Pawlak: If Andress
Paweł Pawlak: tests
Paweł Pawlak: are failing right, then we should not release right? Because there is some issue.
Paweł Pawlak: If Andreas tests are okay, and and from some reason Jenkins. Jobs
Paweł Pawlak: are marking us unstable for Clm. Scans, but still we can see the report from the nexus IQ. I think he's not blocking us.
Paweł Pawlak: Yep.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Amy, can you? CC, me, when you send email to Andrew? Okay, thank you.
Paweł Pawlak: Yes, because you could. You could be on if you would be joining tomorrow's session with Andreas right? You could.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, am I? Yeah, I'm going to going to Om meetings. Yeah, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): I have a question regarding
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): DCAE.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Was it? Is
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): is it? On the deprecated list or not?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Which one.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): These 2 Asia, these.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah, you see.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Too.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Dca, is. The not project is okay, but the some the module will be deprecated. Anything using the Dmr deprecate. But Dca. E. 2 itself
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): are active.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Did I answer your question?
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Well, DCAE.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Compared to Tc. HN. 2 DCAE. Was
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): deprecated back in.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Long time. Ago. Yeah.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, Casablanca before then. I'm talking about DC, region, too.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Gentry is fine. Yeah. You say gentry is fine I. The there is the link later on I share the link the what, which project is active, which projects not active. So you can see.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): So many.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Okay, I mean.
Paweł Pawlak: Interesting thing is, the the DC. Is is looking pretty well in
Paweł Pawlak: like success in the in the drinking Clm jobs. Yeah, just a remark.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): I'm on.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Is there something that
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): with the super committers taking over something like that where
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): changes were made to the existing committers
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): cause. I was.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): There was somebody that did an update on a release
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): last week.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): for one of the
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): repos under DC. HN. 2,
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): and
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): the
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): the job verified and
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): had several plus ones, and I went in, did, plus 2,
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): and it never gave me the option to
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): to do the final step to
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): merge it in.
Paweł Pawlak: So you could not merge the code right.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): No, I couldn't.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay. Oh.
Paweł Pawlak: Oh!
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): So I'm I'm just curious whether something happened when
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): super competitors took over
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): that took away
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): privileges on the existing vendors. I could. Still, I did the plus 2, but
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): I could still do that. But I don't know.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): It's kind of in a wonky state.
Paweł Pawlak: Hmm!
Paweł Pawlak: Strange for me. It's like something that should work.
Paweł Pawlak: If you can do plus 2, then you should almost automatically
Paweł Pawlak: be able to to manage the account.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: It was the case, I think, in the past.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): I, I decided.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): bring it up as well. That's kinda strange.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Don't make my piece of.
Paweł Pawlak: Open the tickets.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): We're down.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, could you ticket for this for this specific issue to Lfit, and we could review it on
Paweł Pawlak: you tomorrow with with Sandra and on Thursday at the Tc. With all fit.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah, open ticket. And this to send the ticket number to us out in the pub.
Paweł Pawlak: It should work, it should work as it's used to
Paweł Pawlak: be the case right.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, I'm I'm in training all day, and I'm actually driving there right now, and I'll have to drop off in 5 min.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): anyway. Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Later, because we're gonna discuss tomorrow. Okay? So yeah, okay, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, we discuss it tomorrow. So no, no, no, no, you know. Drive safely, and you can. You can do it whenever you you can simply and and simply. Tomorrow we have a session with Sandra.
Paweł Pawlak: so we could make sure. Make sure she's aware of the of the issue, and she can check with Jessica
Paweł Pawlak: in the meantime. So on Thursday we could have maybe some solution already, or, you know, don't just say no. We have a ticket right, but rather
Paweł Pawlak: we have a solution.
Paweł Pawlak: I hope.
Tony Hansen (AT&T Services, Inc.): Thank you.
Paweł Pawlak: Thank you.
Paweł Pawlak: Alright. Github Githap actions. I'm not sure if you have any specific updates here.
Paweł Pawlak: Sorry, guys, I will not
Paweł Pawlak: try to edit anything, because if I click the button I will have instability of the
Paweł Pawlak: of the wiki. So let's briefly look at the
Paweł Pawlak: what we've got. And what are the latest updates?
Paweł Pawlak: We already discussed about the China telecom China mobile updates from the from the Tsc 2 weeks ago. Buon. Can I ask you for some some updates? Yes, for the Tsc.
Paweł Pawlak: Because I it was a long weekend in Poland, so I could not.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, they could.
Paweł Pawlak: I'll do that.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): But I I put the the previous one. I put the link Tsc, okay, okay, sorry. Okay. Let's talk about Tsc, first.st Okay. Then we're gonna I added, the China Mobile Channel telecom presentation link. You can look at that for their plan for also, tsc, just
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we talk about decouple, our own app and the and create open interfaces desktop which we use. K driven use case to the plan. But
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the mostly talk about yesterday the last week was deprecate project. When not, have the new daily branch they approve.
Paweł Pawlak: And.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So from New Delhi, Tsc. Agreed. If project do not have any update or Pto
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for New Delhi, then they don't have to create is new daily Branch and new. Om script. Where can integrate with any any versions of project from umbrella chart. So that's okay. So that's why. That's the one and also inform the new own Lfx Zoom Meetings are created
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for projects. So we created several, including this second outcome and Cps and the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): 5, G, son. And yeah policy, so many of them. And so as needed, they the Sandra can create it. So we provide the input
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): to Tsc, that's the basically, you know, we discussed
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then also release plan. I put that, you know, newly, but already mentioned about that. So okay, desktop.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): hey?
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): In
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): you you use a term. I wasn't aware there was a
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): 5G. Son up
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): project within own app.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I mean, there's a project under the the meeting the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): NK. Ashanka. He's leading 5G. Soon.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Okay, so
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): not for this discussion. But you may. Wanna I'll look into it. What the the project charter is. Mk, at the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): conference. We had a good discussion.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I think we
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): may need to think
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): what son, in my view, is service oriented, networking, right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And now Ibm has proposed through Lf edge
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): application centric networking.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I don't.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So there is a meeting this afternoon, I think, or tomorrow
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): on it. We already have 2 meetings. It was a joint collaboration of Lfn Tech and Lf edge Tech.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): We had a meeting at the conference.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Both stacks.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): They, they basically said, Hey, we are
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): basically pursuing this
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): with red hat in Ibm world for the commercial.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hmm.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And I thought open source would be another good place to show this.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay. Okay.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I'll send you what Ibm commercially doing it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): What the service is.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And there's a use case under 5G super blueprint.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): It's not application centric networking.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So it might be a good idea to kind of.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): See if there's an overlap or synergy between son.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Application, centric.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Sure. Send us email. Then I'll look at the and they're connecting that to. You know that. Okay, great, thank you.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Thanks.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): yep.
Paweł Pawlak: Thank you, Bill, for Mundasar for sharing. Yeah. Very interesting.
Paweł Pawlak: Alright, looking at what we could update.
Paweł Pawlak: Oh.
Paweł Pawlak: there's not that much that they could.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, good nephew!
Paweł Pawlak: In the meantime. Yes, maybe on the nephew side, right? Because I think.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: It's in.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Doesn't if you want. I put this update. They are handling signed image handling through nephi system. They are trying to add those images signing capability
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and also nephews, not sgi vio change. Later. Sig. Security team is working on the the execution plan I mentioned last week.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Start the Poc Demo and and also require my user story present to seek one which is architecture team.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then detailed Demo and run through to Sig automation, which is the development team. And we gonna do. And also last week, Ral did not update the under the proposal for Orn walk road identity but he will do this week. So we gonna internally discuss further today. But the Oran workload identity proposal
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): before we present to our nephew walk group to tomorrow. So, and that's the discussion. And you can look at the link above the what he's present. It's a very high level still. But you can get some idea what he's thinking about it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then also, yeah, we we gonna discuss all the integration discussion today.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So is that the link? So beyond is this the link above where it says, Nephew.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, program, work.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Glowed.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, that's the supposed to be done last week. But you you will do this week.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay, so this is this, Googled, the Google Docs presentation.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Googled that.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah. Great.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Thanks.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, so.
Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Yeah,
Paweł Pawlak: thank you. Madasa, for sharing the link in the chat guys, you can you can validate the the information from Ibm, right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Great motor.
Paweł Pawlak: Communication centric
Paweł Pawlak: networking.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, very, very interesting. Okay. Let's see.
Paweł Pawlak: All right.
Paweł Pawlak: I don't know if you have anything for the on app security implementation status.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Stay on the dream. Huh?
Paweł Pawlak: Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, still ongoing. So.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, okay. So
Paweł Pawlak: we already mentioned the Tsc Ptls call
Paweł Pawlak: and the focus for the future
Paweł Pawlak: for the elephant Tac, I think there was a meeting in the meantime, right?
Paweł Pawlak: Anything that we could
Paweł Pawlak: mentioned here.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah. The elephant Tac did have a meeting last week, but
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): It was mostly a a discussion of the elephant project, lifecycle, correct Medicare.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Yes, and the preparation for Cntiode.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Right hmm.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): They shared the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the draft deck. There was a lot of discussion on. Can we
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): consider the 2 Weeks
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Review period? There was some sort of
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): exception requests
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): that, can you review the draft, and a draft doesn't change. Can you vote on next tack?
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And there was some updates on
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): super blueprint. 5G. Super blueprint.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): We got some
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): folks to step up as a Tsc. So we can start the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): project incubation into Lfn.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): 5G. Super blueprint is not a project, and board
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): wants every effort to be a project.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So we're proposing 5G super blueprint as a project, and for that we needed. Tsc.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): so that was an update.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): There's another project that's coming in as a candidate project
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and of legal
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and Lf, project formation team is shepherding that process.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and if there's any interest to go into Lfn.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): then Lfn. Process for
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): project life cycle, pick it up. So that was kind of the overall discussion attack.
Paweł Pawlak: okay, thank you for
Paweł Pawlak: updating us. Hmm.
Paweł Pawlak: for the technical depth. And
Paweł Pawlak: anything that's
Paweł Pawlak: we could update.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): No. So
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): what kind of last week we talked about on Setcom is that.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): It seems to be
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): hesitance from a lot of folks to sign their name on
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): putting concrete
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): goals, quality goals.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So that's why I asked Tony and some other folks on this call
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): to maybe
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): consider using project maturity
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): model to.
Paweł Pawlak: I mean.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And then quality goals.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So when we say it's a gold star project or graduated project.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): it should have stated quality goals.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and it should have
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): exhibited, that they actually
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): strive to and show results towards those goals.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Because that might be an easy one for us to implement than having somebody say, Well.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): elephant wants this.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): or elephant wants our graduated project to have
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): map these goals.
Paweł Pawlak: Since defense.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Growth, books.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): There's more of a ground up. I was hoping we can get some support, because usually
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): organizational changes require both
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the leadership initiative
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): engineers and software developer initiative. So what we trying to do now is more from.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): you know, the community driven goal standing for ourselves
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): because we can't find people to step up
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): from the top down.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): but it would have been easier
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): if we had done both.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): You know, top down where
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): top at least the Board can state. Hey, guys, we need to have a minimum of this kind of quality
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): for the software products that we produce
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and that will incentivize.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): You know the the working communities to
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): at least meet those goals.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): But we can take whatever we get.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So we'll see. I don't know, Tony, if you had a chance to
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): look at your dashboard and see we can also go into
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): that up
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): project life cycle stuff that we kind of looked at. Then I can take it back to.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): There is a project life cycle at the tech level.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): where they put in what it takes for a project to go from Sandbox graduated.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and I think, at least for graduated project.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): an easy, stated goal. You know how they manage their vulnerabilities, how they manage their technical debt, and so forth.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Is that graduated project is something we expect people are using it
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and be, you know.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the user community should trust that software. Everything else before Graduator project is more like, Hey, the concept works use it at your risk. But
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): graduated. We're claiming that we got all the maturity we needed.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I'll I'll take a look. I'll propose something. If we have own app, and maybe Nephew Project
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): agree to that kind of inclusion, doing some measurements and kpis, and we can insert into project maturity model. I think we'll achieve our goal.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): It's more of socializing for a while. I think
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): people don't want to be pinned down
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): where they think
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): it becomes a binary between success and failure. I think if we socialize that
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): we have dashboards. We have tools.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I'll strive for it.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Then it's much easier to say, well, that's my goal.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Fruitful.
Maggie Cogdell/DoD: Yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: Absolutely. Gordon.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, thank you for sharing
Paweł Pawlak: tony had to drop, and we'll be 2 weeks on holidays we could see in the chat, so
Paweł Pawlak: need to take it into account for any specific
Paweł Pawlak: actions or or support from his site.
Paweł Pawlak: okay, for the packages upgrades.
Paweł Pawlak: I think end of last
Paweł Pawlak: in, in fact, last week there was some next iteration run by the
Paweł Pawlak: Amy's team. So thank you for for doing it.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yes.
Paweł Pawlak: Do we know for the cps, for example, because I checked manually that there is some for the.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): In, the.
Paweł Pawlak: Base for the database. There is some recommendation to use
Paweł Pawlak: newer version.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yes, there is.
Paweł Pawlak: So apparently. Maybe this is this is the item that that is showing up.
Paweł Pawlak: There's not the huge gap, but still some. Some vulnerability could be removed by just upgrading this.
Paweł Pawlak: It's currently the least.
Paweł Pawlak: So yeah, okay.
Paweł Pawlak: for the Clm scan syndic portal.
Paweł Pawlak: I don't know. Fito was present yesterday. Have you had a chance? Been to.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, no, no, he didn't. He didn't.
Paweł Pawlak: He didn't.
Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so we are still missing. Ui.
Paweł Pawlak: let's come okay.
Paweł Pawlak: Anything that you would like to add for the next week, agenda guys.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I can take a stab at the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the life cycle, see where we insert the
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): technical debt and quality statements.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Propose maybe a change request
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): for own app working docs
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): as well as tech.
Paweł Pawlak: okay, so
Paweł Pawlak: if if you
Paweł Pawlak: would be available and and share some some updates please, don't hesitate.
Paweł Pawlak: we have a, we have a, floor. We have a room space. And yeah.
Paweł Pawlak: alright, anything we could cover today, guys.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): One thing is
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): cps, God mature state.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And so policy team, they want to follow same steps. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): that means we may need today may need to go through gold batch the process. So what Tony ren so cps, so I I inform the polis team
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Pto. And if they prepare some review, then one time
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we're gonna review at the second process.
Paweł Pawlak: Sure. Yeah, very, very welcome.
Paweł Pawlak: We need to keep in mind. Tony will be on on the holidays for the next 2 weeks. Right? So
Paweł Pawlak: good. Hi.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): In a.
Paweł Pawlak: It will be great to have his, you know. Feedback
Paweł Pawlak: as the person leading the the the budging topics. Right? So, yeah. But.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, do you?
Paweł Pawlak: In the meantime, yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, they are doing for Oslo, because all also already started. So this will leave you for Oslo. So it's good timing after Tony's come back. So we can do, okay.
Paweł Pawlak: Perfect. Perfect. Okay? Great.
Paweł Pawlak: Yeah. Looking forward for second project gaining.
Paweł Pawlak: This is
Paweł Pawlak: Holy Grail. Let's see.
Paweł Pawlak: Alright anything else that we could cover today, guys
Paweł Pawlak: hearing none. So thank you very much for today, and hope to hear you next week.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And cute.
Paweł Pawlak: Care bye, bye.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I.