Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Good morning, Maggie.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): You know.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Emmy, did he go to South Korea, or on vacation.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): No, I was on vacation.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: Hello, good morning, guys.
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Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Good morning!
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Pawel Pawlak: Do you recall if if Tony is back
Pawel Pawlak: from holidays this week, or we still.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Maybe next week you said 2 weeks.
Pawel Pawlak: 2 weeks. Yeah, yeah, probably. Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: So let me share the screen for the
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Pawel Pawlak: Would you please confirm. You can.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, yes.
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Pawel Pawlak: Hmm.
Pawel Pawlak: If we consider packages upgrades for the new Delhi. So hmm!
Pawel Pawlak: Following the ticket that Amy opened, we received some feedback from Kevin
Pawel Pawlak: about the dependency errors that needs to be fixed by the community, as you can see, for several.
Pawel Pawlak: Salem
Pawel Pawlak: mustard drinking jobs.
Pawel Pawlak: and we we might be missing some
Pawel Pawlak: some plugins for the Pom files.
Pawel Pawlak: On the other hand.
Pawel Pawlak: we will have a presentation at the Tsc. For Thursday by Ericsson team.
Pawel Pawlak: Sharing some some experience with
Pawel Pawlak: you know, removing from
Pawel Pawlak: and the dependencies right view.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Apparent or parent.
Pawel Pawlak: Oh, sorry. Operand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): i i i put a separate section, but I you don't either.
Pawel Pawlak: We'll we will. We'll we'll target this later on. Okay?
Pawel Pawlak: So I think we would have to touch base with the with those projects. I think. Ccsdk, okay, it's
Pawel Pawlak: and Sdnc.
Pawel Pawlak: so Ben, OM.
Pawel Pawlak: I guess Andreas and Msv.
Pawel Pawlak: probably nobody we could start. You could discuss me, Frank.
Pawel Pawlak: So being what would be your recommendation for this? Msb.
Pawel Pawlak: What I mean.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Msp, it's gone right.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, I think so.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): He's gone. He's completely gone.
Pawel Pawlak: So we should probably re remove it totally for.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Drink. Yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: Right. Yes.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Or not couple
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Maurice. We didn't use it at Msp.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Well, that's good. That's 1 thing.
Pawel Pawlak: One less.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Several things in the retired in during the New Delhi, Msp.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Half of the DNA. Mr. Is gone, and Dr. Will be deprecated in Oslo. So yeah, more and more.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Jim. Down
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): MS. Wisconsin.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. So I what I propose, I will drop an email to to Dan for the Ccsdk and Sdnc.
Pawel Pawlak: And to address for OM.
Pawel Pawlak: So they could check
Pawel Pawlak: for those failures right? And if this could be fixed.
Pawel Pawlak: hmm.
Pawel Pawlak: Need some reasonable
Pawel Pawlak: amount of time, right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, so maybe put.
Pawel Pawlak: Remove those
Pawel Pawlak: from the dependencies, areas, errors, or test failures.
Pawel Pawlak: And the same for the
Pawel Pawlak: okay, for the V for the plugins.
Pawel Pawlak: Vnf, SDK
Pawel Pawlak: multi-cloud multi cloud
Pawel Pawlak: opt f.
Pawel Pawlak: Do you recall? For the Ptf view
Pawel Pawlak: could be
Pawel Pawlak: contacted? Is it address as well.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): The Nfl, SDK,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I think it's up in a deprecated let me double check.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Cause they don't wanna do anymore. So let me see.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. Yes. If you could, please go.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, and they have 4. They have.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): or repos in
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): of Jenkins.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, okay.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah. But if they're deprecated so.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): They should re be removed.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, save some resources
Pawel Pawlak: we could see. Simply request to remove it right?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Alright!
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. They were.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): They are.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): so they are listed as being deprecated or.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, we, we, yeah, we put there. Yeah, yes.
Pawel Pawlak: So beyond. May I ask you to give some comments
Pawel Pawlak: for those ones, for the ones that we mark us deprecated.
Pawel Pawlak: and then we could so simply.
Pawel Pawlak: you know, push the message to the Lfit. So they they would remove the the junkies jobs that are irrelevant for us.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I gave the the list of the deprecated one to Jesse a couple of weeks ago. I'm not sure this is the ongoing. We can double check with how this coming team.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Do you think we need to maybe create a lfit ticket instead of just passing a list to her? Or did you do it via the ticket.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I I don't remember. I create ticket, but we talk. But yeah, I I'll
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): double check if we create ticket or not. Okay, I'll talk to you.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Jessica, after this minute.
Pawel Pawlak: Lfit loves tickets. Right? So.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): They do. Yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: You know Itsm rulers.
Pawel Pawlak: So everyone needs to track the the work right? So
Pawel Pawlak: in this case we should open a ticket, and then we have. We have visible for everyone. Right?
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So who is who's got responsibility again for optf.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Opt has no active. Pto.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Pardon me.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, no Ft. Or Pto
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): or Ptf.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): To.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): It's inactive. And that means is is deprecated, too.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I see. Yeah.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So. So we think that optf should be removed.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, good. So several thing. You know, Opf is inactive.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and cli is inactive, and modeling is at inactive and homes inactive. Most external Api framework.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then Vnf. SDK, and the Vfc. Inactive.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): that's the that's the situation.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Cause. Well, there's still one cli job in there.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh!
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Again. So we still have a cli job. What else.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Cli. Job is not active.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Right, but it's still in May. It's still in
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): in the Jenkins, in the Clm.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, let let me open so we could automatically.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, I can. I can share. I've got it open right now, or you can get it open. Share.
Pawel Pawlak: Be able to easily share it.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, you say, C, cli, right.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, I say, it's right. Yeah. There's 1 cli cli master Cli
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): is in there.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So I think that should be removed.
Pawel Pawlak: we have, we have DM, up.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Then d map, we're still keeping in here, but is d map.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, remember, I'm already.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Next release.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Email message driver is gone.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): This is, you'd always come.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay, but data router and calf. Well, there's still. There's still 2 message message router jobs.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): In an hour is still there. But Mr. Is gone.
Pawel Pawlak: External Api, as well right.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): But there's still 2 jobs in Jenkins with it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay. Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: And they're in good shape.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And there are. And there's still Holmes, job, 3 homes jobs and a modeling job, at least one ma 2 modeling.
Pawel Pawlak: Ms B.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And Msb.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: 4 of them.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Then.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Multi cloud is still.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): we still need multi cloud right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, multi crowd. You know, no one walking on it. But still we keep it because of the used case. There's several use cases for that. But we.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): They've got some problems with their jobs. It's failing.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, because Intel left a long time ago. So.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And then Optf is got a couple of 2 jobs, so those have to be removed.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, policy is shiny star, nice.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Obviously he's a girl.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And then Sdc. And Sdnc. We still need.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Sdc. We see needed stnc, we see needed.
Pawel Pawlak: I see.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): That's all we need. No, that's still active.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Use case. Ui.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Any deep.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Bfc. Is still good, and then Bnf.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Vfc. Is Vfc. Is outdated. I mean the.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): We should be removing Vfc.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, because they don't wanna do it there. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Pfc is good. I would
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): vnf SDK out.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm, so you can see guys, we.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): There's a lot of stuff getting getting eliminated.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Bnf, SDK, vfc.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): I'm reading it backwards. Sdnc, we're still good. Sdc, we're good policy.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): That's Good Hope.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Ptf is gone.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): I thought we were getting rid of a parent.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, parent! We are discussing the for new Delhi, but was too complicated, dependent.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Hey! Chris.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): This was Edison policy team. They already removed the apparent from policy. So that's why they like to share their experience with the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): then, once it's reasonable. And then next Monday we're gonna talk about that with the Pto. And if it's acceptable, then we can creating ticket for also removing opera, but we'll see. Depends on the this. Thursday, Tsc. And next Monday, Pto.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Okay. So then, going backwards, modeling and homes.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): External Api d match. DM, T. The Dmap message router are still in there, but they should be gone right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes. But even Emma is gone.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And yeah, will be deprecated in also. But still there, yeah,
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. So I think we should push the message to the left to remove the the obsolete ones right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, I can.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So that's 7 7 different
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): sub. 7 projects it looks like are getting removed.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hey?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Which year
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): keep going?
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Ccs.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Tcs Ps.
Pawel Pawlak: Do you love.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Cli cli is still good. Right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Stuart.
Pawel Pawlak: He's good to say he's good.
Pawel Pawlak: DM, up, Mr. Right?
Pawel Pawlak: So those 2
Pawel Pawlak: external Api forms.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Bombs are gone, bombs gone.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Homes should be gone. What about Cli? We still need.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): You're not going.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Still, I should be gone.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Let me share this screen.
Pawel Pawlak: Are you gonna share? Okay, let me stop sharing.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, no, I'm gonna have a chat. I'm not sure. Let me
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): one second.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So that's a significant number amount of stuff we can remove.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, can you? I think that's.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Good thing.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Can you click the this
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the chat images?
Pawel Pawlak: Yes, yes,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Opf. We are probably, you know, already. Remove it, but it's not here under city.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So of it here, maybe.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, nobody nobody working on it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything. Gray is gone.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): So Vvp is is out. Vnf SDK. Has to be removed. External Api has to be removed.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, see it all.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Cli, okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And Holmes.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Ms B.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Palms.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Message it out or grayed out.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): F. Vfc oo F.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Modeling.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Where's Vnf. SDK in this? Oh, there it is, up the top. Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Let me check that. Yeah, yeah.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Awesome. This is super helpful.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then we share the address the lead, the link to Jess class. So, anyway, so.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): But I have a feeling we're gonna have to issue. Give them a tick, create a ticket for them to do the work.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we can do that.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Fi!
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Use your.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): That's a good price.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Really.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Even on the right ticket or.
Pawel Pawlak: I thought that you said that you will do it right you.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Either one is fine. So what you know. Okay, I'll create ticket for remove the those component from Cn.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I did it. Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: thank you very much. Ian.
Pawel Pawlak: okay, let's come back to the, to the agenda for today. I need to stop sharing this one and come back to
Pawel Pawlak: here. Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: I don't think we have any update for the moment for the login modifications. So we move forward. Githap actions
Pawel Pawlak: and.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Tata said, they will contribute during Oslo. So good news.
Pawel Pawlak: For the Github. I think we hear that the team is Lf, it team is
Pawel Pawlak: occupied a lot with those Github actions. So
Pawel Pawlak: let's say, waiting for for the progress. Hmm! Elephant Aiml, I think, discuss last week that there were no updates unless there are any of these.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No no updates.
Pawel Pawlak: Nephew, I think you.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, I think they're not. If different. Only differences. The
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): nephew assigned images. So what we're in progress
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they would be. They are walking ones.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and the other one the nephew. Next plan. They are still discussing, and then I think that they are starting the Poc. And last week. What do we discuss with the nephew security and also
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the automation which is development team was, where are they gonna contribute the code
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): into. So I think, though, they are discussing now, they're, gonna you know, the reason is
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for workload
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): identity. They have to change the Boost trap Controller. But that means they have to change some of the core nephew code. So initially, we tried to do a separate Poc. But we are debating.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): you know. So anyway, that's that's what they are still working on it. But I think, though once they read and they're gonna start checking in the code for workload identity based on design which based on documentation above.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So then.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah, then, we are gonna have a some real code and then
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the Poc and demo Demo, and then what we
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): available. So that's still.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. Thank you. Bill.
Muddasar Ahmed: Hey, Bill?
Muddasar Ahmed: So do they have any thoughts how the workload identity can be integrated in upstream orchestrator like
Muddasar Ahmed: or Anne Smo, or some external orchestrator.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, there is this question. But not concrete. What? But if you get the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Orin Walker edited proposal by nephew. 6. Security, you know the top deskt, Orin.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and there's some I idea on how to
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): how to. You know the handle on the security between or and ost, and so Raoul is the Pto
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): of the net, nephew see? And he presented to the all in working Group 2. And then how they gonna work with the smith cluster, and then, all cloud manage cluster, and how we're gonna secure. But they have many questions, but they as a start they're gonna handle low hanging first.st So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they're using same trust domain
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): demo and all cloud in the same security domain. But it doesn't block some different configuration, you know, handing different way. And Multi Tenancy Federation, and you know, or some other way. So next is the hierarchical the upload identity. So this is the under discussion, and I think the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): propose high level propose is done, and the working group to they give a lot of you know the feedback. So then we're gonna discuss further and then, but anyway, plan is there.
Muddasar Ahmed: Okay, cause. I think it's important to
Muddasar Ahmed: make the identity document available somewhere upstream
Muddasar Ahmed: where you may have a policy server like, you know, snow. You may have a use case like you're creating a slice.
Muddasar Ahmed: And you want a particular network functions.
Muddasar Ahmed: and that you know, Mini trust domain stuff like that.
Muddasar Ahmed: I think that would be cause as is right, identity is created. So there's not a lot we're adding value to.
Muddasar Ahmed: But once energy is available and can be integrated in other
Muddasar Ahmed: the policy formation processes.
Muddasar Ahmed: Then it becomes very strong. Use case, because now you could mark a tendency and slicing and stuff.
Muddasar Ahmed: Yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So I think there once is started. And we yeah, definitely, we need that. Yes.
Muddasar Ahmed: Thanks.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Pablo.
Pawel Pawlak: Alright. So moving forward.
Pawel Pawlak: So we also skip for the moment this gold budging for the for the policy team. When
Pawel Pawlak: we need to wait for Tony to come back.
Pawel Pawlak: If we consider Tsc meeting last Thursday.
Pawel Pawlak: So there was a discussion about on upstream lining phase 2. So be, you may give you the floor to, to summarize.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Okay. So we did the only streamlining phase one which is make it the component individual build. And then deployment. You know, thanks to Om team we did.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Now the Channel Mobile Channel telecom, and also Deutsch Telecom. They are thinking about how to select the own app component for their use cases and then creating you know. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they want to be able to kind of a a lightweight on it.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So that for that, I think what this was to mention about that we need to some kind of
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): documentation how to integrate how to aggregate document, also requirement for that. So we are. We plan to work on on this during Oslo. So I'm I'm chatting with the channel mobile channel telecom. So, for there.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): concept of the lightweight
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): own it. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): that's still what there's somebody here. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): use. And also in basically. Though, you know, if you look at the bullet point, create documentation and every individual call and creating
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): migrate on app solution.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I think the 1st candidate is the intent driven aiml gen AI in orchestration, which what China, mobile, and China telecom doing is still use cases
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and possible. Are we gonna do use cases of the Orin and nephew connection. So one of the kind of mobile the vision is to connecting.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): That's between Olm ownap and then, nephew.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah, through Uui intend based. But that's the idea. So anyway, the that's the main the work item in Australia and documentation documentation documentation. Yes, and that's what the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): many. I got many input from other Mini, several with this Kanguang and Don.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And they want some, you know, some documentation for this.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, that's it.
Pawel Pawlak: Thank you. Thank you.
Pawel Pawlak: We have voted on 2 topics. And approved the sign, really sign off
Pawel Pawlak: for the new Delhi, and also removing some recordings that are older than one year
Pawel Pawlak: to to
Pawel Pawlak: free some resources.
Pawel Pawlak: and we raised the issue about the Wiki pages that are unstable.
Pawel Pawlak: and last, not but not least, Eric's on policy team proposed
Pawel Pawlak: to to
Pawel Pawlak: share the info about the
Pawel Pawlak: apparently you move on
Pawel Pawlak: which will be held for the next
Pawel Pawlak: get. See? This Thursday.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): If if they say, okay, then maybe only second. I guess previously,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and creating some global requirement for this, maybe after that's that's what we did right?
Pawel Pawlak: Some apparent activities.
Pawel Pawlak: I'm not sure if it was a global requirement to be honest, Amy, do you recall.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): I don't think no, I don't think it was a global requirement. But we, the the reason we put a parent in place was to solve a problem, an early problem where there were so many different versions of things being used.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): But I think that
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): in in researching it it's not clear that we need a parent any longer.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Came.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): It was just that, you know, for, say, a given there were about I don't know 10
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): 10 or so packages where they were commonly used, but the versioning was all over the place.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): But I think we've, you know, basically solved that.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: So
Pawel Pawlak: to conclude.
Pawel Pawlak: most probably there was no global requirement for this.
Pawel Pawlak: And yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: so we we were working on it to
Pawel Pawlak: to have under control the different versioning, and some of them were pretty old versions of some components right in the mind. So
Pawel Pawlak: yeah, alright, hmm.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Yeah, I think that when we did it, and I think we discovered we had.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): I don't know 20
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): 20 plus
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): versions of a couple of different packages that we're running in
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): in the code
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): and so that the apparent was a way to get that fixed quickly.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): But I think that we've now.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): you know, really.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): because we've got people upgrading packages regularly, I think the problem really went away.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): And finding somebody to maintain the oparent was
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): has always been a bit of a challenge. It was nice, you know. Policy stepped in for a long time.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: Eve.
Pawel Pawlak: I come back to the, to the agenda for the Ptl. Meeting we write. We run yesterday.
Pawel Pawlak: so there was a
Pawel Pawlak: extensive
Pawel Pawlak: discussion about the issue that that mark opens and and Marick joined, fortunately, and we had a good discussion, I believe.
Pawel Pawlak: With him, Martin Kavin.
Pawel Pawlak: And
Pawel Pawlak: yeah, I really hope that some alternative that's that Marek
Pawel Pawlak: identified could be
Pawel Pawlak: could be implemented.
Pawel Pawlak: and to
Pawel Pawlak: for the Ng Portal Slm jobs, I think
Pawel Pawlak: work in progress. We don't have a solution for the moment.
Pawel Pawlak: Union.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah, that's that's basically this. And then one thing I remember under ticket, I think
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they says, since on, it is moving to Europe. Action. Maybe they gonna move
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): to a new solution. They probably they're gonna try someplace solution. But they don't wanna
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): be a solution for outgoing nothing. So.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, the problem is that you know the timeline is
Pawel Pawlak: little blurred for me for this Githap actions. Right? Because we were told, okay. End of Q.
Pawel Pawlak: 2, maybe for free.
Pawel Pawlak: Now, somebody mentioned Q. 4. So it's
Pawel Pawlak: we are dependent on finishing, you know, some work for other projects.
Pawel Pawlak: and then we could move on with with with phone up. So
Pawel Pawlak: we will keep on asking on on what is the estimated delivery time? Right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): They said they're gonna come back next week with some. They're gonna discuss offline. And then they're gonna come back with us some update. So we'll see next week. Hope we can hear better news. So.
Pawel Pawlak: okay? I don't know if there are any updates for elephant tech.
Pawel Pawlak: I think this last one was one week ago, right
Muddasar Ahmed: Yeah, it's every 2 weeks. So
Muddasar Ahmed: I'll go ahead. Do update next week.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, okay, thank you. Thank you, Madison.
Pawel Pawlak: Alright. So
Pawel Pawlak: to be honest, these are the all the topics I have in the agenda, unless you would like to cover anything else. As we are all together now.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Enough, from.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, so, feeling none, I will be more than happy to give you back 30 min for your agenda for today, and hope to see you next week.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Thank you.
Pawel Pawlak: You guys, thanks.
Maggie Cogdell: So much.
Maggie Cogdell: tip.
Pawel Pawlak: That a.
Muddasar Ahmed: Amy.
Amy Zwarico (AT&T Services, Inc.): Hey? Have a good rest of your day.
Muddasar Ahmed: Alright, bye.