Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Modesta!
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hey! Bubble.
Pawel Pawlak: Hello! Good morning!
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hello!
Pawel Pawlak: I propose great.
Pawel Pawlak: One more minute and I'm gonna share
Pawel Pawlak: summertime. So maybe we'll not have a full
Pawel Pawlak: presence today. But.
Pawel Pawlak: Steve, I think
Pawel Pawlak: we may expect
Pawel Pawlak: somebody else to join.
Pawel Pawlak: Alright, let me slowly start. So just to
Pawel Pawlak: reminder of of the few items that we already
Pawel Pawlak: cover it, and I'm pretty sure you're you are aware of it.
Pawel Pawlak: So
Pawel Pawlak: we had the
Pawel Pawlak: even yesterday some small updates from Ramesh. So he's working on
Pawel Pawlak: on the policy team efforts to get the gold batch. There is a summary time period, so
Pawel Pawlak: probably we can expect some more more
Pawel Pawlak: interactions with the policy team in in coming weeks.
Pawel Pawlak: And to
Pawel Pawlak: I need to get some
Pawel Pawlak: feedback from Tony on the
Pawel Pawlak: on the item
Pawel Pawlak: mentioned here.
Pawel Pawlak: If we consider vulnerability reports for Oslo.
Pawel Pawlak: So
Pawel Pawlak: removing policy. Graphical user interfaces on our cloud is done.
Pawel Pawlak: and I need to get some updates from Amy. If she had time to
Pawel Pawlak: to update the wiki with the latest recommended versions for Java Python, etc.
Pawel Pawlak: We had this discussion already about Ci.
Pawel Pawlak: Essay, and we had the communication towards people
Pawel Pawlak: Tsc. Ptls.
Pawel Pawlak: So
Pawel Pawlak: now we maybe not spend
Pawel Pawlak: that much time here now.
Pawel Pawlak: Esomorama registration already mentioned several times. Just a reminder that
Pawel Pawlak: if you, if you are interested.
Pawel Pawlak: you can join remotely, or
Pawel Pawlak: even on site.
Pawel Pawlak: Earth.
Pawel Pawlak: And I think for the packages, upgrades for New Delhi. I will close this topic because we have all everything
Pawel Pawlak: completed here.
Pawel Pawlak: So for the logging modifications proposal, we are waiting for the attack communication matos right to come back to us.
Pawel Pawlak: I guess they they have no any additional updates. Right? Okay.
Pawel Pawlak: for the Github Github actions
Pawel Pawlak: based on what Jessica mentioned.
Pawel Pawlak: In fact, I understood that there is some other more prioritized activity on lfit side
Pawel Pawlak: and until they complete this migration.
Pawel Pawlak: and, you know, freeing up some resources.
Pawel Pawlak: move.
Pawel Pawlak: then they will.
Pawel Pawlak: and we will work on Oran and then on up
Pawel Pawlak: for the Github actions. So
Pawel Pawlak: not so clear. If it's going to happen this year.
Pawel Pawlak: if I understood correctly, for.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: Last message that that just shared at the Tc.
Pawel Pawlak: yeah, we are waiting for China, mobile China telecom colleagues to present their plans
Pawel Pawlak: for the Oslo timeframe, and
Pawel Pawlak: I don't know if there is something more to to handle for the National security working group. Apart from the
Pawel Pawlak: last updates that that you share.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): They they did demo but you know, to show small demo and like
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): they created a spire server agent, part of the nephew install.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then no attestation between the spy, server and spy agent they showed.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and also handling the node testation for regional and edge cluster.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then a
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): just get Svid
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and then the using vault to verify the the secrets
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and those things I did. And then
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): if they're gonna go further, and then they want to register Sbid as part of the package variant 6, you know, secret schema desk for next time, but the last week they made a small demo I can put once you
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): update this page, I can, you know, summarize a little bit.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, that's the yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): That's the basic summary. Because
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and they just, you know, provide the basic spire and agents via server
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and vault layout. And then they creating the the workload one and workload 2, and how they
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): get the Sbid to how they know the testation, how to verify
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Jason Web token, and then to get the secrets. And that's the the basic still are basic
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): demo. But we'll see. But.
Pawel Pawlak: It's it's good, you know, starting small, and and then and you know, have some.
Pawel Pawlak: The discussions and
Pawel Pawlak: conversations,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And they are thinking about
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): not really using it. But tone Jack, for nephew. But that's the just to start
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): the communication tone, Jive is the tool.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So, but.
Pawel Pawlak: I'm not familiar with, okay, so
Pawel Pawlak: please provide some updates, if if you can so it would be great, thank you.
Pawel Pawlak: if
Pawel Pawlak: if we consider the the last Dsc meeting. Okay, we had this project status
Pawel Pawlak: no solelys update and thank you, Jung, for.
Pawel Pawlak: Running all those wikis, and, you know.
Pawel Pawlak: trying to to collect the information from the projects.
Pawel Pawlak: It is really
Pawel Pawlak: important to have this visibility across the different projects.
Pawel Pawlak: So far we don't have yet that much.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm present there, right.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Right. Nadia.
Pawel Pawlak: China telecom China mobile will bring something, I guess. Dt. Colleagues.
Pawel Pawlak: They they they they will contribute as well.
Pawel Pawlak: We could see that even yesterday
Pawel Pawlak: Feta mentioned that he
Pawel Pawlak: he, he would like to do some A and I
Pawel Pawlak: update.
Pawel Pawlak: So yeah, so it's
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Port, I go into, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: There are some efforts
Pawel Pawlak: in the different
Pawel Pawlak: companies to
Pawel Pawlak: to, you know. Feed
Pawel Pawlak: hmm! On a scope
Pawel Pawlak: for the for the Oslo release
Pawel Pawlak: here.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And go see.
Pawel Pawlak: I'm sorry.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. Part of the Tsc. Meeting last week.
Pawel Pawlak: Yes.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Dmap. Dmap, deprecation is okay.
Pawel Pawlak: Coo.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Email application. So DM, d. Is approved. But that means whole Dmap will be gone.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Deprecate.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yep.
Pawel Pawlak: We had this voting
Pawel Pawlak: process completed. So need
Pawel Pawlak: I see. Mundasar shared some.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah. Starting.
Pawel Pawlak: Eastern.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): This from the previous discussion with nephew.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): There are a couple of examples out there by
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yep. Yep.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): One with the Istio and one with the Kubernetes controller.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I'll find the other link, and I'll send it to you as well to that. Both basically integrate into what we've been using in Oran, I mean. Sorry on App.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So if they can actually figure it out how they're gonna implement in the nephew orchestration.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Cause. There's going to be method, just the Kubernetes methods. And then there's a sidecar method, right or proxy method.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yep, yep.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): thank you.
Pawel Pawlak: Thank you for sharing. Yes, sir.
Pawel Pawlak: And if I consider Pts meeting.
Pawel Pawlak: we had a good opportunity to to to have discussion with Dan.
Pawel Pawlak: I understood that ideal calcium version is under consideration.
Pawel Pawlak: And we agreed that Dan will respond to Andrea's email.
Pawel Pawlak: So
Pawel Pawlak: we could have some better visibility on
Pawel Pawlak: on the plans for CC. SDK.
Pawel Pawlak: And Sdnc.
Pawel Pawlak: And one more item that's being you. You ask if,
Pawel Pawlak: if committer permission to John Kinney
Pawel Pawlak: could be could be granted, and and Dan was okay to do it. So probably we'll have some
Pawel Pawlak: voting process initiated at the tsc.
Pawel Pawlak: yeah,
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I think the the Alex. And John Kenny still are actively working with the a. 1 Controller only in CC. SDK, but
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): he's processing very slow and Ccsk team. That's why he wants to be a committer for that. Anyone Controller wants to then promote him, and I think he can check and can merge, you know, so
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): make it faster. That means it could be part of the some of them is part of the also. So
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): look, it.
Pawel Pawlak: Thank you for this for this update.
Pawel Pawlak: Elephant. Tac, I don't know if they were.
Pawel Pawlak: they will send a meeting in in between. When we had the update last week.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): There was meeting we didn't have a quorum.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): so no business was conducted. Just we use
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the short time to plan for the next meeting.
Amy Zwarico: One of the plans was to go back and look at the
Amy Zwarico: and look at the 5 Year Review that
Amy Zwarico: Sorry the Tony has done that Tony had put together, and pull Kpis out of that as a proposal for how to
Amy Zwarico: right the the security maturity of projects.
Amy Zwarico: So
Amy Zwarico: what is our. And I have that action. Item.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I did a little bit of homework on that.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Paul. If you can give me
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): shit.
Pawel Pawlak: I stop sharing? Yeah, like, you can, you can share. I don't need to give you anything, i just stop sharing and you can share
Pawel Pawlak: please try
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Okay. It's shared.
Pawel Pawlak: Excel.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yep. Yep. Okay.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I'm basically
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): right now, I don't have any proposal. So the summary page is empty. I took assessment.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And these were the key areas that
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): we were assessing the projects at.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I'm also going to look at
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): health template
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): that the pack uses for
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): annual project review
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and bring some of that insight in here.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): And then
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): I was looking at
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): the generally accepted code quality
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): stuff. But
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): so I'm collecting that then I'm gonna look at the tools that we have in Lfit pipeline
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and bring them all together, so we can create summary recommendation. What should be
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): monitor
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): where it should be measured.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): and then we can come to a threshold. Decisions right? 80 and so forth.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay,
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So I'm still working on it. I'll share with Amy and other folks
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): to see if we can
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): get some more ideas in there.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, thank you for sharing. And this voting process I I remember last time we discussed it was
Pawel Pawlak: so.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Quorum.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): small, quarterly world.
Pawel Pawlak: So self-explanatory here. Right?
Pawel Pawlak: Alright, hmm!
Pawel Pawlak: If we consider clm scans for Ng portal. I understood that
Pawel Pawlak: there is some kind of work in progress, although not that much progress
Pawel Pawlak: observed recently.
Pawel Pawlak: but at least not
Pawel Pawlak: you still.
Pawel Pawlak: You know, trying to to handle it.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm! Well.
Pawel Pawlak: I guess
Pawel Pawlak: this is it for for Amy, as you join. Just a question for one of the items.
Pawel Pawlak: Had you had, have you had a chance to
Pawel Pawlak: update the wiki for the recommended python versions, and so on.
Amy Zwarico: No, that's this week.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): one thing, one thing, the Tony's 2 open Ssf, too. We deport it at Tsc.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And some of the owner projects are out there outdated. I think that the 2 still show the
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): deprecated projects. So we we send email, we, we send email to Sandra and Tony to
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): remove the the applicate project and also update the items. Yeah, that's the we did.
Pawel Pawlak: Hmm.
Pawel Pawlak: yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: So I hope maybe next week only if he joins, we could have this
Pawel Pawlak: discussion with him.
Pawel Pawlak: hmm.
Pawel Pawlak: otherwise, tomorrow, we have a session with Sandra. So we we can check.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Can do that.
Amy Zwarico: Yeah, I, I think that.
Pawel Pawlak: Here.
Amy Zwarico: Yeah, that that would be interesting, because I think that Tony just pulls the things that are related to own app. We'll have to figure out how he does it. I'm not sure if it's automated off of open Ss efforts that he has a
Amy Zwarico: a list that he pulls from.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah.
Amy Zwarico: Don't!
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Data.
Amy Zwarico: Code.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Data coming from some openness, but that means they have outdated information.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah. But then we can submit them. Some
Pawel Pawlak: update. Right? So.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): We put, we provide the list of the project we deprecated so they should know how to do it. Then.
Pawel Pawlak: Yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: okay, so I think I've covered briefly all the points I had for today. But if you have anything else we could discuss. So please
Pawel Pawlak: shove.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, you know. So.
Pawel Pawlak: Yes, I understand. Yes, please.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): With that spreadsheet in order to collaborate. I don't think you can edit it on the Vicki.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Very good.
Pawel Pawlak: Why not?
Pawel Pawlak: But we have probably.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): So download and upload right.
Pawel Pawlak: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Pawel Pawlak: you're right. You could upload it as well. Right? So.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Yeah, I was hoping that it more like teams right then.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Make live edits, and leave the week.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): That Poppy.
Pawel Pawlak: I'm not sure. I'm not sure it would work this way.
Muddasar Ahmed (MITRE): Okay, I'll just when I'm done with the current headers. I'll send it out to the Saccom Mailer list and ask for inputs.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay? And then we can have a 1 of the
Pawel Pawlak: agenda points for the next week
Pawel Pawlak: to to to review and have some discussion.
Pawel Pawlak: Okay, yeah.
Pawel Pawlak: perfect.
Pawel Pawlak: All right. So
Pawel Pawlak: thank you very much. Guys.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Thank you.
Pawel Pawlak: Give you back 40 min and wish you great day today and talk to you next week.
Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Very much. Okay, thanks.
Pawel Pawlak: Thank you. Take care! Bye, bye.