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20180904 Meeting Questions
One question that came up during this call was the desire for example VNFs which include at least one use of the standard interface from the ETSI SOL spec of which at least one operation has an implementation, so that we might see examples. It would be best to get a vendor variety to see how the specification is being interpreted.
I included some names below in the hopes it would generate an alert as you might be the right people to contact to get an example VNF. I picked names I recognized but am more than happy to have anyone's examples.
20180508 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) R2 DM Victor Gao 10m
2) ETSI Correspondense Thinh 5m
3) Disucssion on R3 DM Anatoly Katzman 30m
4) Modeling workflow Kevin
5) Service IM Lingli Deng 5m
6) Resource IM YANG Xu 5m
20180424 Meeting agenda and Minutes
the meeting was recorded here:
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1) Modeling future working process discussion: Lingli Deng 15m
2) R2 DM finalize? Victor Gao 5m
3) Resource IM YANG Xu 5m
4) Feedback on R3 DM Anatoly Katzman 15m
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Patterns+of+translating+IM+into+TOSCA-based+DM
Anatoly will make further explaination how internal model design benefit use case and SO/VFC could work in this solution
5) Service IM Lingli Deng 5m
6) ETSI Correspondense Thinh 5m
Action? Kevin will send the bridge into the list
20180410 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) Papyrus: 5m Kevin Scaggs
Action? Kevin will send the bridge into the list
2) NSD IM Last call: 10m Maopeng Zhao
Action: Maopeng will remove diagram, class prefix and openstack network class, then move into clean version
3) R3 DM proposal 30m Anatoly Katzman
audio recorded. View file name ONAP R3 DM.mp4 height 250
4) Service IM 5m Lingli Deng
finish the doodle this week
5) ETSI correspondense 5m Thinh
20180403 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) Workshop minutes 10m Hui Deng
2) Service IM 15m Lingli Deng
- R2 service modeling will be the same as R1 service modeling which is confirmed by SDC/SO/HPA/VNFSDK/AAI/VFC
- AR: request to move wiki threads to R3 workspace
- Product is out of the scope of ONAP, but service order is
- AR: keep service order (not for product order) proposal in the current discussion thread
- Network Service Descriptor
- ONAP service model is broader than ETSI NFV Network Service Descriptor
- The current network service descriptor IM is in a stable phase, the last call ends Tuesday next week, feedback on the wiki or via email is welcome, another call would be set early next week
- WAN Service Descriptor
- Comments received from Nigel, and agreed to go with option 3 in changing some names for aligning with ONF IM concepts
- Service layering class diagram
- AR: cardinality corrections
- AR: composite pattern instead of recursive aggregation, initiate last call ends Tuesday next week, feedback on the wiki or via email is welcome, another call would be set early next week
- AR: decorator pattern for FFS
3) NSD IM Last call: 10m Maopeng Zhao
4) Resource R2 DM: 10m Victor
5) Resource R2 IM 10m Xu Yang
6) Papyrus: 5m Kevin Scaggs
7) ETSI correspondense 5m Thinh
20180320 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) R2 IM final 10m YANG Xu
2) R2 DM final: 15m Victor
3) Resource DM R3 proposal: 15m Anatoly Katzman
4) Papyrus: 5m Kevin Scaggs
5) ETSI correspondense 5m Thinh
6) Modeling workshop 5m DENG Hui
20180313 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) Resource DM R3 proposal: 15m Anatoly Katzman
2) IM R3 proposal: 15m Kevin Scaggs
3) Resource DM Update: 15m Victor
4) Modeling workshop 5m
5) ETSI correspondense 5m Thinh
20180306 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) DM: Anatoly Katzman
?Victor’s proposal will be agreed – TOSCA NFV profile plus R2 IM+
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Data+Model+align+with+TOSCA+NFV+Profile
Note: need to confirm whether onboarding has any issue, if fail then need to fall back to R1 solution.
1) will keep onap type and heat type both folders, and
2) will update onap type with TOSCA NFV profile, and
3) will best effort to let 2 use cases use it, if fail, and will fall back to heat type , and
4) will work on improve R3 modeling spec before end of Beijing release
Extra addition related to IM+(including HPA) will be added later
2)Resource IM: Xu Yang
1? ElementGroup enhancement:
agreed to put them as “experimental” (optional to implement) part of the R2 model, except for scalingGroup which needs further discussion
2? HPA support:
agreed to support the feature in R2 IM
regarding the attributes, 2 concerns have been raised:
l The definition/specification of the key and value of each attribute is not clear, which makes it hard for people to understand the usage of each attribute and agree on including it into the IM
l There’re a few attributes in the IM having the same functionality as the HPA attributes (considered as legacy/redundant attributes). Some participants have shown their preference on choosing one way to express certain functionality, e.g., cpu pinning
a poll has been set up to decide which attributes to be included in R2 IM and how people want to deal with the “legacy/redundant attributes”
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/HPA+Attributes+Poll
3? L3AddressData attributes & Polling results:
No time to discuss
3)Service IM/DM: Lingli Deng & Maopeng (Wednesday call)
4)Modeling workshop in ONS 2017
5) If time allows:
Modeling spec Papyrus: Jessie Jewitt
Modeling tools: Nigel Davis
Parser: Atul Purohit
A&AI James Forsyth
20180227 Meeting agenda and Minutes
Deadline for modeling spec is M3: Mar. 7th
Implementation of model spec will be before M4
Modeling workshop is needed during ONS 2018, poll on Sunday or Friday
1)DM: Anatoly Katzman (Anatoly is absent due to traveling, Deng Hui help to lead the discussion)
1.1) AT&T suggest to keep Heat support , agreed
1.2) two tosca proposal on the table
a) https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Data+Model+align+with+TOSCA+NFV+Profile
b) https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Data+Model+Compliance+with+ETSI
Suggest a will be R2, b will be a new proposal for R3+ (Consensused), Intel question whether we need b proposal
Intel: support SOL001/TOSCA NFV DM or code contributor
ARM: support SOL001
AT&T(Andy) support TOSCA NFV DM for onboarding, along with Heat
Nokia: support SOL001, code contributor(check)
Ericsson: support SOL 001/TOSCA NFV DM ,code(check)
Netcracker: support SOL 001/TOSCA NFV DM
Huawei: support SOL001/TOSCA NFV DM code contributor
ZTE: support SOL001/TOSCA NFV DM code contributor
China Mobile: support TOSCA NFV DM code contributor
Comments:
a) current ONAP IM is more than IFA 11, we need to follow ONAP spec
b) China Mobile question on SOL001 IPR issue, OASIS TOSCA is more IPR friendly.
2)Resource IM: Xu Yang
community agreed to do majority vote for the not agreed attributes in the end.
YANG Xu will organize the call on wednesday and thursday, then put vote spreedsheet on the wiki about the left issues. End of vote will be Monday
company who disagree with some attbiutes will be recorded
3)Service IM: Lingli Deng/Maopeng Zhang
Lingli and Maopeng will make R2 proposal asap.
4) Others (no time to discuss)
Parser: Atul Purohit
Modeling tools: Nigel Davis,
Modeling spec Papyrus: Jessie Jewitt
A&AI James Forsyth
20180213 Meeting agenda and Minutes
1) Resource IM YANG Xu
there is no consensus whether we need to follow ETSI NFV naming convention or change into ONAP naming.
Two polls will be set to decide the naming convention and future meeting time. The polls close on Feb 28th.
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Meeting+Time+Poll
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Naming+Convention+Poll
2) Data modeling Anatoly Katzman
DENG Hui: modeling subcommittee have to finalize the 1st draft version by M3 deadline, in this case, we need to allow solutions only 1 week, and make the decision on Feb. 28th.
DENG Hui: there are two solutions on the table now: Monolithic VDU design and TOSCA NFV profile, we are not make decision today, but would get basic impress what company would like to follow:
Vendors:
1) Ericsson vote for of ETSI NFV Profile
2) ZTE vote for ETSI SOL NFV profile
3) Huawei vote for ETSI NFV profile
4) Nokia --no one on call
5) Netcracker (Priya TG) vote for ETSI NFV Profile
Operators:
1) AT&T: Monolithic VDU
2) China Mobile: lacking information to do an informed comparison hence no strong opinion to any specific proposal currently. The options on the table should firstly meet the requirement as a unified DM in the community with consistency to the IM and implementable in Beijing release cadence with vendors support. It would be better if we could align with SDO in the same time.
Next step:
a) check whether we have 3rd solution or not in a week
b) make decision on Feb.27th
3) Modeling tool poll(Jessie)
1) use github for papyrus revision
fine from IM's team (Kevin, Andy, Lingli, and YANG Xu)
Anyway, polling will end by the end of Feb.
20180207 vF2F modeling subcommittee session:
1) Resource IM Xu Yang
2) Service IM Maopeng Zhang
3) Data modeling Anatoly
4) Centralized Parser Atul
Atul will keep weekly calls for Parser Tiger team from w/c 12th Feb
- Infosys will help in preparing user stories and requirements, criteria, plan on a page for proposed PoC activity, this will happen as part of modelling project and along side ZTE’s OPNFV parser proposal
- this PoC will look at various points like
- API access of this Parser As a Service, can that be standardized
- Exception handling of this interaction
- Can a placeholder be created in modelling project to on-board various parsers and abstract them with an API consumers of this idea, what will change for them
- The outcomes of this PoC activity may decide if R3 gets a proper / proven proposal for consideration or if the idea is not feasible, it may be dropped
- at the end of PoC, a final call will be take and summary presented to modelling subcommittee to decide on whether it makes sense to peruse this idea further or learnings from the same
5) Modeling tools Nigel
6) Projects follow up modeling spec discussion (Modeling contact from each Project)
20180123 Meeting Agenda & Minutes
JIRA Modeling 45 Resource DM: Anatoly Katzman
Conclusions:: the community agree to work on VDU only in R2, other than VFC/Container style, in future version will consider VDU+VFC/Container hybrid solution
JIRA Modeling 45 Resource IM: Xu Yang
1: Kevin
2: Lingli
Conclusions: IM will have call about Lingli's contribution next week.
JIRA Modeling 58 Terminology: Michela Bevilacqua
Github for Papyrus Jessie
**Parser tiger: Atul Purohit
20180123 Meeting Agenda & Minutes
JIRA Modeling 45 Resource IM: Xu Yang
JIRA Modeling ** A&AI IM: Jimmy & Yang Xu
JIRA Modeling 45 Resource DM: Anatoly Katzman
-- Alternative VDU Shitao Li
JIRA Modeling 58 Terminology: Michela Bevilacqua
VES Alok Gupta
JIRA Modeling **Parser tiger: Atul Purohit
Committers update: Hui Deng
20180116 Meeting Agenda & Minutes
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1) R2 Modeling design principles and guideline
ONAP Modeling session in September 2017 during F2F deverloper event
20170919 Meeting Agenda
1) AT&T present the Data Model
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