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Goals

  • share information between
    • O-RAN-SC Non-RT-RIC
    • O-RAN-SC OAM
    • O-RAN-SC O-DU
    • O-RAN-SC SIM
    • O-RAN-SC INT
    • O-RAN-SC AI/ML
    • ONAP CCSDK/SDNC/SDN-R
    • LFN (wink)

Recording

Discussion items

TimeItemWhoNotes
00:00Admin

Next meetings: 


00:05O-RAN-SCO-RAN-SC PTLs
  • O-RAN-SC ToC
  • Non-RT-RIC: John Keeney
    • G-Release Maintenance - image version updates - available this week
    • H-Release planning
      • data management exposure
        • data type filtering
      • service management exposure
        • auth
        • rApp management
        • registration aligned to 3GPP CAPIF
      • rsac inputs
      • interfacing with ai/ml project artifacts
      • rApp package and its definition in O-RAN Alliance
    • checkout Jira (smile)
    • AI/ML interfacing 
  • AI/ML: @Sandeep J
    • No update this week
  • RSAC/SMO: David Kinsey 
    • H-Planning
    • O-RAN f2f planning
    • ONAP Req ↔ O-RAN-SC RSAC
  • INT: James Li(CMTI)
    • x-testing with other projects+
      • xApp onboarding
      • with INF project - integration O2 Interface
    • O-RAN-SC SMO project as "package" for O-RAN-SC artifacts (O-RAN-SC blueprints for deployments)
      • DMS needed by Tacker/O-RAN-SC-SMO 
      • Cloud orchestration and its relation to nephio . O2 aspects

00:10ONAP Req ↔ O-RAN-SC RSAC

first ideas are formulated for ONAP Req ↔ O-RAN-SC RSAC communications

  • background
    • plan - more synergy between the projects
    • start on requirements work

Fruitful discussion in today's O-RAN-SC RASC meeting

  • Topics: Draft from N.K. Shankaranarayanan 
    • O1-/OFHM-related OAM, IM/DM Models→ WG10 (O1, OAM), WG4 (OFHM), WG5 ?
      • Good amount of existing work and harmonization effort (e.g., yang models, VES msgs)
      • Very strong alignment between OSC & ONAP (avoid duplication - single codebase)
        • Would be helpful to make release timelines etc better aligned.
    • Non-RT-RIC A1-related:  → WG2

      • Good amount of existing work and harmonization effort (e.g. A1 interface, modification of ONAP RAN-Sim to support A1

      • Continue effort to re-use code and principles

    • Non-RT-RIC rApp:  → WG2 (WG10, app management)

      • Good amount of work in OSC - reusing alot from ONAP

      • (**New area) - Ongoing effort to seek out ways to align with ONAP control loops and use cases (originally designed without knowledge of R1)

      • e.g. Already reusing ONAP functions as part of  rApp management/LCM
    • SMO Policy Functions:

      • (** New area) - ONAP has had a Policy Enforcement Function since beginning, and there is no obvious mapping to existing SMO architecture

      • e.g. inter-rApp coordination ??
      • rApps using Policy Functions - as rApp might use any other SMO service, or rApp might contains Policies (ref work in ONAP ACM / App manager)
    • O2 related, cloud management → WG6

      • ONAP has a lot of work on NF orchestration and management - looking at O2 support

      • (**New area) - Relatively less focus on cloud infrastructure management (role for other LFN projects? - e.g. Nephio?)

      • (**New area) - integration of use cases which cover both IMS and DMS part of O2

    • Orchestration (end-to-end aspects, including components inside SMO) -

      • (**New area) - ONAP has lot of work on Service Design and Orchestration. May be worthwhile for OSC to be align to leverage past work?

    • AI/ML related (Training, ...) → WG2

      • (**New area) - ONAP work did not assume role of Non-RT and Near-RT RIC. AI/ML work was generic.

      • (**New area) - ONAP did not consider controlled data access / exposure.
    • Security → WG11

      • Good amount of shared objectives - security of interfaces design, system implementation, code design etc

      • Can share best practices etc

    • Simulation work -> OSC

      • Ongoing effort to leverage/harmonize

      • OSC sim work oriented towards OAM (CU/DU/O1), ONAP Sim work oriented towards use case (RAN-Sim)

        • Reusing OSC simulators in ONAP usecases (e.g. RANSim, A1 Policy functions)
      • ONAP RAN-Sim adaptation - A1 termination, abstraction of near-rt-ric and xapp, exploring porting

    • End-to-end use case -> WG1, OSC

      • End-to-end slicing, SON, Intent-based, OAM, life-cycle management

      • Scope for sharing work and aligning objectives

    • Architecture  -> WG1

      • (**New area) - Identification of building block sub-systems - esp. related to SMO. (SMOS/SMOF concept?)

      • Target to have only small list of recommended approaches, harmonization/code re-use within same approach


0:57AI/ML - Non-RT-RIC interworking and touch points@Joseph Thaliath

Presentation for such interworking

  • data formats
    • PM vs list of key/value pairs
    • Who (which component) is mapping/translating the data into the preferred training format?
  • Training component within Non-RT-RIC or outside (discussion)


Info
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END of the meeting



SON/slicing Use caseN.K. Shankaranarayanan 

Planning for ONAP London

2023-02-01:


00:45Q/A



00:003GPP copyright issue

Still! "not ok" - how to use NETCONF YANGs from 3GPP and O-RAN

Problem Statement might be not fully understood. 

Next step: Call with Magnus Buhrgard 

After the call and some emails: Magnus it preparing a call with 3GPP SA5 representatives and then another ONAP LS to 3GPP

The topic is on the ONAP TSC agenda tomorrow: TSC 2022-09-08

> Magnus wont give up (smile)




Action items